Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 124

01/24/2006 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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Dan Bockhorst
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                        January 24, 2006                                                                                        
                           8:07 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bill Thomas, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pete Kott                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW:  LOCAL BOUNDARY COMMISSION                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DARROLL HARGRAVES, Chair                                                                                                        
Local Boundary Commission                                                                                                       
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the Local Boundary                                                                 
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAN BOCKHORST, Local Boundary Commission                                                                                        
Division of Community Advocacy                                                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered additional information regarding                                                                   
the department's interaction with the LBC, and answered                                                                         
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BILL THOMAS  called the  House  Community and  Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting  to order  at  8:07:17  AM.                                                             
Representatives Thomas,  Olson, Neuman,  and Cissna  were present                                                               
at the call to order.   Representatives Salmon and LeDoux arrived                                                               
as  the  meeting  was  in  progress.    Also  in  attendance  was                                                               
Representative Coghill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^LOCAL BOUNDARY COMMISSION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:07:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be the overview from the Local Boundary Commission (LBC).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:08:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARROLL  HARGRAVES, Chair,  Local  Boundary Commission,  recalled                                                               
the LBC's  report last  year, which was  the 50th  anniversary of                                                               
the constitutional convention.  The  intent of last year's report                                                               
was  to provide  a resource  for  years to  come.   The 2006  LBC                                                               
report has  been provided to  each member of this  committee, and                                                               
it addresses  the following  areas:   an overview  of the  LBC; a                                                               
summary  of the  LBC's activities  last year  as well  as pending                                                               
proposals; and a  discussion of public policy  issues of interest                                                               
to  the LBC.    Mr.  Hargraves reminded  the  committee that  the                                                               
Alaska  State  Constitution  established  the  LBC  in  order  to                                                               
objectively deal  with boundaries and organization  proposals and                                                               
to do so  with a statewide perspective.  Furthermore,  the LBC is                                                               
responsible  for judging  proposals  in  areas of  incorporation,                                                               
annexation,  detachment, reclassification,  dissolution, mergers,                                                               
and  consolidation of  cities  and  boroughs.   The  LBC also  is                                                               
responsible for the  study of local boundary  issues/changes.  He                                                               
pointed out  that the LBC  consists of five members  appointed by                                                               
the  governor for  overlapping five-year  terms.   One member  is                                                               
appointed from each  of Alaska's four judicial  districts and the                                                               
fifth member is  appointed at-large and serves as the  chair.  He                                                               
highlighted  that  commission  members   donate  their  time  and                                                               
receive no  compensation for  their service.   He  then mentioned                                                               
that   the  Department   of  Commerce,   Community,  &   Economic                                                               
Development (DCCED) provides support to the LBC.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:13:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES  moved  on  to  Chapter 2  of  the  report,  which                                                               
outlines  the   activities  of  the  LBC,   including  formal  or                                                               
potential  proposals.     In  the  past  year,   there  has  been                                                               
annexation  by 10  city  governments, among  which  was a  formal                                                               
proceeding that the  LBC affirmed annexation of  4.5 square miles                                                               
to the City of Homer.   There were also the incorporation of four                                                               
unincorporated communities,  among which  the LBC  approved, with                                                               
amendments,  a proposal  to incorporate  a second  class city  to                                                               
serve   the  community   of  Naukati.     There   was  also   the                                                               
reclassification of four existing cities  and annexation by three                                                               
borough   governments,   although   no  formal   petitions   were                                                               
considered  and  none  are  pending.     The  LBC  also  saw  the                                                               
consolidation of  a borough and  city government.  He  noted that                                                               
there is a pending petition for  the consolidation of the City of                                                               
Ketchikan and the Ketchikan Gateway  Borough.  There was also the                                                               
detachment of four  boroughs.  The LBC  saw borough incorporation                                                               
in  11  unorganized  areas, which  he  surmised  illustrates  the                                                               
considerable interest  in incorporation.   Currently, there  is a                                                               
pending  petition  for  borough  incorporation  for  the  Deltana                                                               
Borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:16:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES continued  with Chapter  3,  which summarizes  the                                                               
major policy  issues and concerns  of particular interest  to the                                                               
LBC, including the lack of  adequate inducement for organization;                                                               
the  lack  of  standards  providing   for  the  establishment  of                                                               
unorganized  boroughs;   and  funding  for   borough  feasibility                                                               
studies.   Mr.  Hargraves  related the  LBC's  pleasure with  the                                                               
consideration   of  various   legislative   incentives  for   the                                                               
formation of  organized boroughs.   However, the LBC,  he opined,                                                               
believes  that further  investigation is  necessary to  determine                                                               
those incentives.   Among the  current possibilities are  HB 217,                                                               
which  excludes  the  value  of  oil  and  gas  not  taxed  by  a                                                               
municipality  and   the  determination  of  the   required  local                                                               
contribution  to schools.   The  aforementioned, he  highlighted,                                                               
will  be  of  vital  concern  for  some  of  the  future  borough                                                               
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:17:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN inquired as to  what the concern is related                                                               
to  HB  217.   He  further  asked  if  the communities  that  are                                                               
concerned are in  relation to whether the gas  line proposals are                                                               
from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez or Prudhoe Bay through Canada.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  replied yes, those  communities with a  portion of                                                               
the  pipeline running  through it  are concerned.   He  explained                                                               
that  if  the  high  assessed  evaluation  was  included  in  the                                                               
assessed valuation  of the borough,  the borough  couldn't afford                                                               
to organize.   However,  when that  [high assessed  valuation] is                                                               
excluded   from  the   determination  in   providing  the   local                                                               
contribution to  schools, the borough  would find it  feasible to                                                               
organize.  Therefore, the LBC supports HB 217, he related.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  then turned the  committee's attention to  SB 112,                                                               
which  imposes  a tax  on  certain  individuals employed  in  the                                                               
unorganized borough outside of home  rule and first class cities.                                                               
He  related that  the  LBC  supports SB  112.    He recalled  the                                                               
positive  testimony from  those  in unorganized  areas, which  he                                                               
interpreted as meaning  that people in these  areas are receptive                                                               
to some type of tax to  participate in funding their schools.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that   there  would   still  need  to   be  certain                                                               
protections  for individuals  at the  poverty level  or over  the                                                               
Social Security age.  Still, [SB  112] would be a manner in which                                                               
to  provide  local funding  to  the  schools in  the  unorganized                                                               
boroughs.   He noted  that the  LBC is aware  of the  recent work                                                               
done by the  Alaska Advisory Commission on  Local Governments and                                                               
offered that  the LBC will  respond to any  questions/concerns of                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:21:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  concluded by highlighting  that the  LBC continues                                                               
to   support  greater   incentives  for   borough  incorporation.                                                               
Therefore, it urges the legislature  to make funding available to                                                               
explore borough incorporation.   He acknowledged that there would                                                               
have to be controls with the aforementioned.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:23:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN BOCKHORST,  Local Boundary Commission, Division  of Community                                                               
Advocacy,   Department  of   Commerce,   Community,  &   Economic                                                               
Development  (DCCED),  in   response  to  Representative  Neuman,                                                               
confirmed that SB  112 is the approximately $470  annual head tax                                                               
that applies  only to individuals  21-65 years of age  who reside                                                               
or  are  employed in  Rural  Education  Attendance Areas  (REAAs)                                                               
outside  of home  rule and  first class  cities and  whose income                                                               
doesn't fall  below federal  poverty guidelines.   He  noted that                                                               
under SB 112, disabled veterans  and individuals who are property                                                               
taxpayers elsewhere would be exempt.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:24:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN recalled  that  last  year this  committee                                                               
determined  that two  meetings  should  be held  in  areas to  be                                                               
annexed.   He opined  that often  after meetings  for annexation,                                                               
there is  media coverage  that alerts  people to  the annexation,                                                               
and   therefore  a   second  meeting   could  allow   those  with                                                               
information from the  first meeting to participate.   He asked if                                                               
that approach was utilized.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.   HARGRAVES   indicated   that    he   didn't   recall   that                                                               
recommendation.  He related that  the public information hearings                                                               
[for  annexation] include  public information  hearings early  in                                                               
the process.   In  fact, staff often  meet with  various interest                                                               
groups.   After all the written  testimony is in the  record, the                                                               
LBC meets [at  the annexation site], after which the  LBC makes a                                                               
decision.  He asked if  Representative Neuman was suggesting that                                                               
the LBC have a second hearing.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  said  that  HB 133  was  the  legislation                                                               
relating  to this,  which unanimously  passed in  the House.   He                                                               
recalled that HB 133 specified  that when there is an annexation,                                                               
there should  be at  least two  meetings to  discuss issues.   He                                                               
recalled  that HB  133 also  addressed the  use of  the aggregate                                                               
vote requirement  and proposed that  [in order for  annexation to                                                               
proceed]  both  areas  involved  in  an  annexation  should  vote                                                               
separately   in  the   affirmative.     The  notion   behind  the                                                               
aforementioned is  that the most  populous area in  an annexation                                                               
would, in an aggregate vote  situation, determine the fate of the                                                               
annexation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES said,  "That is in regulation."  He  noted that the                                                               
last revision  of those regulations  was in the early  1990s, and                                                               
therefore it's probably  time to have a major  revision of those.                                                               
In fact, the  department has assigned staff to work  with the LBC                                                               
to develop  a new set  of regulations.  The  aforementioned input                                                               
is helpful in the development of regulations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:30:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   OLSON  recalled   the  Homer   annexation,  which   he                                                               
characterized as  a painful process  for those in  the community.                                                               
He inquired  as to the  point at  which the annexation  is today.                                                               
He also  inquired as to  what the LBC  would do differently  in a                                                               
similar hostile annexation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  noted that there  are still pending suits  in that                                                               
case, and  therefore he said  he couldn't discuss  any specifics.                                                               
He  commented  that  sometimes  the  hearing  process  becomes  a                                                               
negotiation process.   In  fact, there  were many  positives that                                                               
resulted  from the  hearing process  with  the Homer  annexation.                                                               
Mr. Hargraves recalled that when the  LBC went to Homer after the                                                               
court decision, he was impressed  with the positive testimony and                                                               
the  number  of  people  who supported  the  [court's]  position.                                                               
However,  he acknowledged  that  there were  a  couple of  people                                                               
outside  of  the  incorporated  area  who  were  opposed  to  the                                                               
[court's] position.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:32:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  OLSON recalled  that the  original  annexation was  for                                                               
approximately 25  square miles, but  it was finally  approved for                                                               
4.5 square miles.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  replied yes,  adding that  many times  the hearing                                                               
process itself is a type of arbitration.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:33:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  related her understanding that  in some of                                                               
the  unorganized  boroughs  REAAs receive  federal  funding,  and                                                               
therefore  she asked  if  such boroughs  would  lose the  federal                                                               
funds if they organized.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES specified  that the REAAs do receive  part of their                                                               
PL874  [federal funds].   Therefore,  if the  REAAs organized  to                                                               
become a  borough school district,  then more of the  PL874 funds                                                               
would go  directly to the  community thereby reducing  the amount                                                               
going  to  the state.    In  further response  to  Representative                                                               
LeDoux, Mr. Hargraves said the  net total amount of PL874 funding                                                               
would remain  the same.  He  explained that the PL874  funding is                                                               
earned  on the  basis of  the  populous who  live on  or work  on                                                               
federal lands.   He mentioned  that there is a  classification of                                                               
nonrestricted  deeds on  which  some people  live  for which  the                                                               
federal government will pay the taxes on those properties.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:36:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS highlighted that  the LBC's report specifies that                                                               
the total taxable property value of  the Yukon Flats REAA is $340                                                               
million  of  which  $316 million  is  the  Trans-Alaska  Pipeline                                                               
System  (TAPS).   If Yukon  Flats formed  a borough,   would  the                                                               
state  lose that  $316 million  and  if so,  would it  go to  the                                                               
borough instead, he asked.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES  answered that  it  could  under current  statute.                                                               
However,  the rest  of the  20 mills  would be  collected by  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS recalled that  recently local municipalities were                                                               
provided the  ability to discount  the first $50,000  of property                                                               
value.  He then  inquired as to how that would work  on TAPS.  He                                                               
surmised  that  the  first  discount  would  be  on  the  $50,000                                                               
property value  of [the homes  in the  Yukon Flats area]  and the                                                               
pipeline would still be fully taxed at 20 mills.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST  replied yes, adding  that this relates to  HB 217.                                                               
He specified that  the only way a Yukon  Flats Borough government                                                               
could  benefit from  TAPS would  be to  levy a  property tax.   A                                                               
report  prepared by  the University  of Alaska  graduate students                                                               
specified  that  roughly  93  percent of  the  taxable  value  of                                                               
property  within the  Yukon Flats  region  related to  TAPS.   He                                                               
explained  that HB  217  would  remove the  ability  to levy  the                                                               
property tax,  if the  community agreed,  but the  required local                                                               
contribution  to schools  would decrease  because it  wouldn't be                                                               
included in the calculation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS, noting  the possible construction of  a gas line                                                               
[in the Yukon Flats area],  pointed out that by encouraging Yukon                                                               
Flats to become  a borough, the state could lose  $500 million in                                                               
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST clarified  that the $500 million  isn't revenue but                                                               
rather is a property tax base,  and therefore 20 mills would be 2                                                               
percent of $500 million.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:40:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES, in  response to  Co-Chair  Olson, specified  that                                                               
there  is  no  formal  petition  for  the  Fairbanks  North  Star                                                               
Borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOCKHORST related  that in  early 2005  the Fairbanks  North                                                               
Star Borough  expressed serious interest in  exploring the merits                                                               
and  prospects  of  annexation.    In  fact,  the  Mayor  of  the                                                               
Fairbanks North Star Borough indicated  in published reports that                                                               
he  had  reached  a preliminary  conclusion  that  annexation  of                                                               
territory north to the Yukon River  and south to the Good Pasture                                                               
River  was  economically viable.    However,  there has  been  no                                                               
formal annexation proposal by the Fairbanks North Star Borough.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:41:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN recalled  that last  year the  legislature                                                               
passed legislation giving 250,000  acres to the university system                                                               
with the intent  that another 250,000 would be  received from the                                                               
[federal]  government.   Representative  Neuman  related that  he                                                               
viewed this as  a way to help areas organize  boroughs.  He asked                                                               
if Mr. Hargraves viewed it similarly.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES agreed that the  lands available in the areas being                                                               
petitioned is a good inducement  for incorporation.  However, the                                                               
inequity lays in the lack of  lands or resource rich areas in one                                                               
area  versus another.   Therefore,  anything  placing more  lands                                                               
available for selection would be an incentive, he opined.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN related  his belief that many  of the lands                                                               
that  will be  given to  the state  will have  the potential  for                                                               
resource development  opportunities.  He expressed  the hope that                                                               
the lands could be utilized by communities in order to organize.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:44:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMAS   asked  if  the  language   for  administrative                                                               
boroughs has  been reviewed [by  the LBC],  and also asked  if it                                                               
generally agrees with the intent.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES specified  that the  LBC knows  it exists  and has                                                               
read the  early language.  However,  he said that he  hasn't seen                                                               
any subsequent revisions.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST said  that the provisions in  the draft legislation                                                               
that [DCCED]  provide for a  new grant  program in the  amount of                                                               
$15 million for  areas with fewer than 15,000 acres  of land that                                                               
incorporate and  a grant of  $12.5 million for areas  with 15,000                                                               
acres  or more  of municipal  land entitlement  are large  fiscal                                                               
incentives promoting  incorporation.  However, some  areas in the                                                               
state  view the  loss of  autonomy with  regard to  schools as  a                                                               
disincentive.    The   legislation  for  administrative  boroughs                                                               
doesn't impact the  current structure of schools.   Mr. Bockhorst                                                               
acknowledged that there  has also been concern  with the prospect                                                               
of  property  taxes  under  the  formation of  a  borough.    The                                                               
administrative  borough  concept  doesn't empower  them  to  levy                                                               
property taxes.   Mr. Bockhorst  highlighted that the  LBC hasn't                                                               
taken  a  position  on  the  legislation,  although  it  has  had                                                               
discussion on it.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:47:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMAS  highlighted   that  [under  the  administrative                                                               
borough concept] the incentive is  only available for four years.                                                               
Therefore, the  borough would have  to form within four  years to                                                               
receive the  incentive.  He  noted that some mayors  in Southeast                                                               
are excited,  although there is  also concern with regard  to the                                                               
lack of available premium land.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:48:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN recalled  that the  state owns  the rights                                                               
three-miles offshore,  and asked  if any of  the income  from the                                                               
fisheries could be taxed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOCKHORST reminded  the committee  that borough  governments                                                               
along  the  coast have  similar  jurisdictional  boundaries.   He                                                               
noted that  there are a  number of municipal governments  that do                                                               
generate  revenue from  the commercial  fishing  industry in  the                                                               
area.  In fact, the Aleutians  East Borough, the Lake & Peninsula                                                               
Borough, and  the Bristol Bay Borough  derive significant amounts                                                               
of money  from municipal borough  government taxes  on commercial                                                               
fishing activities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:50:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON  inquired as  to how the  smaller satellite                                                               
villages included in  the formation of a borough  can obtain fair                                                               
representation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES confirmed  that such  difficulties exist  all over                                                               
the  state  and  it  probably   prohibits  organization  in  some                                                               
instances.   Mr. Hargraves  said that he  didn't believe  the LBC                                                               
could solve  that problem,  which isn't unique  to Alaska.   With                                                               
regard  to administrative  boroughs,  they will  have  to have  a                                                               
borough seat somewhere,  which he indicated would  be located [in                                                               
the larger area of the incorporated area].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:52:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON  turned attention to the  Yukon Flats area,                                                               
which is  located on a  federal refuge  and thus there  is little                                                               
state  land.    If  a  borough  was to  form  in  that  area,  he                                                               
questioned what land areas would be used.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  opined that the  aforementioned is in  the purview                                                               
of the  legislature.   "You know,  $15 million  is a  pretty good                                                               
incentive; you could fix a few things with that," he remarked.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:53:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS  inquired as to  information Mr.  Hargraves could                                                               
provide regarding potential litigation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES related  that there has been a  court decision with                                                               
regard to Skagway,  but the matter remains  outstanding and can't                                                               
be discussed  in any depth.   Homer, he noted, continues  to have                                                               
individuals who bring suit.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:54:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  OLSON recalled  that a  couple of  years ago  there was                                                               
interest in forming a proposed  Prince William Sound Borough.  He                                                               
asked if anything is happening with that.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST informed the committee  that at one point there was                                                               
a resolution adopted  by the Whittier City Council  to consider a                                                               
Prince William  Sound Borough.   However, shortly  thereafter the                                                               
citizens  of  Whittier,  through  a  referendum,  rescinded  that                                                               
resolution.    The City  of  Cordova  Council adopted  a  similar                                                               
resolution,   which  led   to  DCCED   preparing  some   petition                                                               
materials.   Mr.  Bockhorst  related that  to  his knowledge  the                                                               
aforementioned  effort   has  ceased  and  materials   were  made                                                               
available to  those in the region  in the event anyone  wanted to                                                               
pursue the matter.   However, at this point no  petition has been                                                               
filed nor has there been an indication of such intention.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:56:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  highlighted  that  many  communities  are                                                               
developing comprehensive zoning plans.   He asked if a small area                                                               
with  such a  plan was  to be  incorporated into  a larger  area,                                                               
would that  smaller area's plan  hold any  weight in the  eyes of                                                               
the LBC.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOCKHORST turned  to the  aggregate voter  method, and  said                                                               
that  it's one  of the  many  opportunities for  annexation.   In                                                               
terms of the  impact of local views and  published positions, the                                                               
LBC  has  an  extensive  opportunity during  its  proceedings  to                                                               
gather  public  input  and  information.    Therefore,  views  of                                                               
citizens would be  available to the LBC and considered.   The LBC                                                               
bases its decisions  on published criteria, standards  in the law                                                               
that   are  examined   and  applied   to   every  annexation   or                                                               
incorporation proceeding.   To the extent  a comprehensive zoning                                                               
plan addresses  those, those would  be considered.   For example,                                                               
the  City  of Palmer  is  currently  exploring the  prospects  of                                                               
annexation and  may be  doing so in  terms of  comprehensive plan                                                               
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:00:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN surmised then  that the local comprehensive                                                               
zoning plans  have no weight.   In regard to the  aggregate vote,                                                               
Representative  Neuman asked  if anything  besides the  aggregate                                                               
vote has ever been used.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST, noting  that he has been with the  LBC for over 25                                                               
years, specified that  annexations with any type  of election are                                                               
very  rare.   Typically,  there is  either  a legislative  review                                                               
process  or a  process  by which  all  adjoining property  owners                                                               
petition for  annexation.  Mr.  Bockhorst said that  although the                                                               
option  exists,  there  has  never been  an  annexation  with  an                                                               
aggregate vote.   However, a  petition for an annexation  with an                                                               
aggregate vote is pending.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES  interjected  that  one  must  consider  that  any                                                               
strategic planning  or other community  efforts might  be brought                                                               
forth  by  DCCED's  review.    He  related  his  assumption  that                                                               
interested  parties would  bring  forth such  information to  the                                                               
LBC's attention.  Therefore, in  that case such information would                                                               
carry weight during the review.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:03:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS pointed  out that Article 10, Section  14, of the                                                               
Alaska  State  Constitution  specifies  that  an  agency  in  the                                                               
executive  branch of  government  shall advise  and assist  local                                                               
governments.  However, when Naukati  petitioned to incorporate as                                                               
a  second  class city,  the  proposal  for  44 square  miles  was                                                               
reduced  to   11  square  miles.     Co-Chair  Thomas   said  the                                                               
aforementioned seemed to  almost eliminate the success  of such a                                                               
proposal,  especially  because  [the   11  square  miles]  didn't                                                               
include a lodge that could've  provided revenue to the community.                                                               
Therefore, he  questioned how eliminating  a revenue  source from                                                               
an area  petitioning for incorporation  could assist the  area in                                                               
its organization.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES recalled  that with the Naukati  request there were                                                               
strenuous objections from  those located on the  periphery of the                                                               
area to  be incorporated.   By the  time of the  [LBC's] hearing,                                                               
the  reduced  boundary  was recommended  by  DCCED  and  everyone                                                               
agreed.   In fact,  the attorney representing  the area  that was                                                               
eliminated  from  the  proposal  didn't  even  speak  as  he  was                                                               
convinced that those  in the core area of Naukati  had settled on                                                               
the  reduced boundary.    Mr. Hargraves  opined  that the  record                                                               
indicated that the reduced boundary was what the people wanted.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS  related his understanding  that the  large lodge                                                               
owner faced a potential tax to  the municipality in the amount of                                                               
$38,000 a year.  Therefore, it  would be good for the lodge owner                                                               
to hire [an attorney to help take  the locale of the lodge out of                                                               
the  proposed  boundaries].   Still,  that  lodge owner  will  be                                                               
coming to  town and utilizing  [its services], which  is alarming                                                               
in light  of the  fact that the  original petition  was rejected.                                                               
In the meantime, the university swept  up some of the land in the                                                               
original  proposal.    Co-Chair  Thomas  indicated  that  he  was                                                               
sympathetic to Naukati.   He then asked if it  is typical for the                                                               
LBC,   when   considering   incorporation,  to   demand   certain                                                               
conditions, such  as the  implementation of  a 3.5  percent sales                                                               
tax, when the area is incorporated.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES  related  his  belief   that  the  LBC  has  broad                                                               
authority to require conditions to help achieve success.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS expressed concern with  the ability of the LBC to                                                               
reduce proposed  boundaries.   Therefore, he  related that  he is                                                               
considering introducing legislation that  would allow a community                                                               
to  opt-out  of  the  administrative borough.    Co-Chair  Thomas                                                               
opined that some of the  LBC's decisions seem to be disincentives                                                               
rather than incentives  to form boroughs.  He said  that he hoped                                                               
that areas will form within the model borough boundaries.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  pointed out  that with  the Naukati  proposal, the                                                               
LBC didn't get to consider  the [44 square mile] proposal because                                                               
all of the parties had  already agreed [on the smaller boundary].                                                               
He  opined  that had  the  original  proposal been  approved,  it                                                               
would've probably been  challenged and went to  a lawsuit because                                                               
those outside of  Naukati proper were too far from  it to feel as                                                               
if they gained  anything by being included in the  proposal for a                                                               
second class city.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:12:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMAS  inquired  as  to  the  difference  between  the                                                               
formation of a borough in Yakutat versus Skagway.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST  recalled that  he made a  hearty case  for Yakutat                                                               
receiving  what   it  requested   because  it's  unique   in  the                                                               
development of boroughs.  He said  that he didn't view Yakutat as                                                               
equivalent  to  other  areas  or  as setting  a  precedent.    He                                                               
mentioned  the   lack  of  connections   culturally,  geological,                                                               
economically,  and  pointed out  that  it  did  meet all  of  the                                                               
standards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:16:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN recalled  earlier  testimony that  perhaps                                                               
some of  the situations the  LBC addresses may need  an overhaul.                                                               
To that end, he suggested that the LBC review HB 133.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:16:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON  recalled that Yukon Flats  and Nenana have                                                               
expressed interest in organizing, and  inquired as to where those                                                               
two stand at this point.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES answered  that there have been  inquiries and maybe                                                               
even presentations, although the LBC has received no petitions.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:17:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS  announced that  the administrative  borough bill                                                               
was  introduced yesterday  in  the Senate  and  the House  hasn't                                                               
decided whether to introduce a companion bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:18:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Community  and Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 9:18 a.m.                                                                                                          

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